Mark Zuckerberg lashed out at Apple in an interview with Joe Rogan

Meta* CEO Mark Zuckerberg said Apple «hasn’t invented anything great in a long time» and relies on its past successes. «Steve Jobs invented the iPhone, and now they’re just sitting on it 20 years later,»” he noted during a nearly three-hour podcast with Joe Rogan.

And now they’re just sitting on it.

Criticism of Apple: closed ecosystem and «arbitrary rules»

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In the talk, Joe Rogan voiced his grievances against Apple, saying he was switching from iPhone to Android because he didn’t like the dependence on one company. He was particularly angered by the App Store’s rules, which Rogan said allow Apple to charge a 30% commission.

Zuckerberg agreed, adding that Apple’s rules «seem arbitrary» and create barriers for other manufacturers. He emphasized that Apple’s closed ecosystem limits competition, especially in products such as AirPods.

Apple’s closed ecosystem limits competition, he said.

Financial and competitive challenges Meta*

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Meta* has long faced challenges due to Apple’s policies. iOS restrictions have negatively impacted Meta*‘s advertising model, which has resulted in multi-billion dollar losses. Zuckerberg estimated that without «random rules» Apple’s regulations, Meta*‘s profits could have doubled.

The company’s revenue could have doubled.

Despite pressure from EU regulators and lawsuits in the US, Apple continues to maintain a closed ecosystem. Zuckerberg believes that this strategy could hurt the company in the long run.

And he believes that this strategy could hurt the company in the long run.

The future of technology according to Zuckerberg

In the podcast, Zuckerberg also touched on AI, time in front of screens, and the integration of the physical and digital worlds. He paid special attention to neural interfaces and their role in Meta*‘s Orion augmented reality glasses.

Zuckerberg also discussed AI and the integration of physical and digital worlds.

In the future, Zuckerberg envisions a world where neurointerfaces and smart glasses will allow instant interaction with digital information. He also predicted a merging of the physical and digital worlds, where virtual objects and holograms will be an integral part of reality.

Quote: «We live in a unified world»

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Zuckerberg noted that the lines between the physical and digital worlds are blurring. «In 2025, it’s no longer two worlds, but one,»” he concluded.

At the end of the year, Zuckerberg said that the boundaries between the physical and digital worlds are blurring.

Closure

Zuckerberg’s statements not only criticize Apple’s approach, but also offer his vision for the future of technology, where neural interfaces and augmented reality will play a major role.

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